Spring mounting means for saddle seats



June 17, 1952 c. A. PERSONS 7 SPRING MOUNTING MEANS FOR SADDLE SEATS 2SHEETS SHEET 1 Filed Nov. 29, 1947 INVENTOR. fiharfies A, Persmw June17, 1952 c PERSONS 2,600,915

SPRING MOUNTING MEANS FOR SADDLE SEATS Filed NOV. 29, 1947 2 SHEETSSHEET2 INVENTOR. fihmmes A. Persw 5w Patented June 17, 1952 SPRING MOUNTINGMEANS FOR SADDLE SEATS Charles A. Persons, Worcester, Mass. Harriet M.Persons and The Mechanics National Bank of Worcester, executors ofCharles A. Persons, deceased, assignors to Persons-Majestic Mfg. 00.,Worcester, Mass, a corporation of Massacliusetts Application November29, 1947, Serial No. 788,906

(01. its- 522) 3 Claims. 1

This invention relates to saddles for bicycles, tricycles, motorcyclesand other wheeled Vehicles which for further reference and conveniencewill be simply referred to as saddles.

The principal object of the invention is to provide a saddle of thespring type having a degree of simplicity, ease of assembly, permanenceof construction and economy of manufacture beyond any device of thissort previously known.

A further object of the invention is the provision of a novel attachmentof the customary coiled front spring to the base or supporting spring,wherein these springs are connected without the use of the bolt and nutheretofore used for attaching the two springs together; and a novelconnection for these springs so that the front spring, which attaches tothe top or seat of the saddle, will depress and yield. to a blow orbounce on the front of the saddle yet return instantly to its normalposition upon the pressure thereon being released.

Another object of the invention resides in the elimination of thespecial headed bolt for attaching the rear of the base or supportingspring to the rear vertical springs. For mechanical soundness anddurability it is necessary to connect the vertical springs by at leasttwo of their coils, this requiring specially headed and costly bolts. Asan improvement, I add a small sheet metal clip flanged and curved withan outside radius equal to the inside radius of the springs and use anordinary headed bolt which passes through a hole in this clip and an eyein the base supporting spring and in this manner partly encircle two ormore of the vertical spring coils and lock the vertical spring and thebase spring permanently together through the use of an ordinary nut onthe bolt.

A further object of the invention resides in a new and improvedconstruction for the seat of the saddle. Seat saddles are made of twotypes, the older consisting of a molded top covering as leather orleatheroid, ordinary padding molded to a formed steel plate, and fabricunderneath the top. The fabric or leather portions are trimmed and theiredges bound with gimp which isstitched through the fabric around theentire periphery.

Another and more widely used method consists of the top being made ofleather or imitation leather, padding, and a light steel plate. Theperiphery of this top, flexible material is turned iriwardly and alight, small metal bottom plate is clamped or bolted down so the"periphery or edge of the top material is gripped between the two metalplates. However, it has been a problem in the past to keep the flexibletop material from working out from between the two plates, therefore, Iadd a series of pointed projections in the bottom plate with the pointsprojecting in and upwardly so that when the complete top is assembledunder pressure, as in a mold, these pointed projections grip the fabricor leather and draw it tight into the underneath side of theintermediate plate and hold it there permanently. This constructionfurther obviates the common use of glue, latex or similar adhesives. Thebot tom plate, formed to register with the upper plate, is locked to theupper plate by either of two dif ferent methods. The first method is tolock the upper plate to the bottom plate by the use of clamps whichconsist of tongues of metal originally formed downward from theintermediate plate and passing through corresponding slots in the lowerplate. In assembly these tongues are turned outwardly to retain theinner and outer plates in tight relation. In an alternate method thetoothed lower plate is retained in tight relation to the upper plate,with the turned in saddle covering between the two plates, through theuse of the bolts which attach the entire top to the springs.

Other objects and advantages of the invention will appear hereinafter.

Reference is to be had to the accompanying drawings in which Fig. 1 is aview in side elevation of a cycle saddle incorporating my invention;

Fig. 2 is a bottom view of the front spring hinged connection;

Fig. 3 is a sectional view taken on line 3-3 of Fig. 1 which shows thegripping action of the pointed projections;

Fig. 4 is a sectional view similar to Fig. 3 which shows a method oflocking the two steel plates together;

Fig. 5 is a sectional view taken on line 55 of Fig. 4;

Fig. 6 is an enlarged sectional view taken on line 6-6 of Fig. 2 whichillustrates the resilient action of the nose coil assembly;

Fig. '7 is a rear view of the cycle saddle incorporating my inventionand looking in the direction of arrow 1 in Fig. 1; V

Fig. 8 is an enlarged view taken on line 88 of Fig. 7 which shows theconstruction of the rear spring connection;

Fig. 9 is a detail view of the small formed metal plate in theconnection;'

Fig. 10 is a sectional view taken on line [B -l0 of Fig. 8 furtherillustrating the spring connection; and

Fig. 11 is a bottom view of the saddle seat which illustrates the seriesof pointed projections.

The saddle top H), which may be of any suitable construction andmaterials, is mounted on a spring set which consists of a front springl2, usually a nose coil, a pair of coil compressionextension springs I4,suspended from the rear of the saddle top It) by rods I6, and a suitableframe, or supporting spring [8 which has two runs and extends from thefront springs l2 to the rear springs 14 and is attached to these springsby bolts 20, as shown in Figs. 8 and 9. The compression-extensionsprings [4 are secured to the supporting spring I8 by means of a smallcurved and flanged sheet metal clip or plate 22, which grips two of thecoils of the vertical springs l4, between the flanges, bolt 20 passingthrough a hole in the clip and an eye 24 which is formed in the end ofeach run of the supporting spring iii. In this manner the verticalsprings l4 are permanently locked together with the supporting spring l8by use of a conventional nut 26 on the bolt 20.

A cross brace rod 23 is eyed at both ends as at 38, and the bolts passtherethrough, also. By the use of the clip 22 it is possible to use asingle compound spring at each end of rod 28 as the vertical spring 14instead of two separate springs as as been used heretofore. Thisconstruction greatly facilitates assembly, a single pair of compoundsprings giving the comfort and resilience during riding only obtainablepreviously by use of two pairs of springs, one pair being compressionsprings and the other pair being extension springs.

The forward portion of the supporting spring is is hingedly connected tothe front spring l2. The supporting spring l8, comprising a pair ofspaced stiff wires or runs, the forward portions of which form agenerally U-shaped joint, has its extreme forward portion bent upwardinto an L shape portion as at 32, forming a crosspocket open at thebottom.

The lower end of the front spring 12 extends rearwardly and is formedwith a double or S curve at 34 which receives the L shape 32 of thesupporting spring ill. The portion 32 of the spring l8 normally rests inthe forward curve or pocket 36 of this double curve. The rear extremityof the front spring 12 is formed into an eye 38 of a suitable size andshape to pass the end of the supporting spring l8 and said eye 38 isbent upward at such an angle as to retain the supporting spring and yetallow a certain freedom of movement as illustrated by Figs. 1 and 6.Thus the supporting spring I8 is assembled to the front spring 12 bypassing the portion 32 through the front spring eye 38 and sliding itforwardly until the portion 32 can be dropped into the retaining curve36, although fastened to the saddle seat at One end.

In this assembled relation the front spring 12 is free to hingedownwardly about the eye 38 under a blow or bounce at the pommel, butits upward movement is checked by contact with the portion 32 of thesupporting spring 18, and the opening of the eye 38 is of such a sizethat the two partswill be retained in their proper relation by frictionand cannot become disassembled in riding. The resilience of spring I2returns the seat to up position upon relief of downward pressure on thepommel.

A comparison of Figs. 1 and 6 show how the resilience of the pommel isobtained. Fig. 1 shows the condition of the spring l2 when the seat isunweighted, the tension of the spring causing it to abut the supportingspring I 8 at the portion 38. When the pommel receives a shock load, asillustrated in Fig. 6, the eyed end 38 of the spring acts as a pivot butthis end of the spring does not bend. All the give is in the coil of thefront spring 12, which easily resumes normal position when the load isremoved, because its limit of deformation cannot be reached even inextremely rough riding or accident.

The rear springs I4 are a combination of compression and extension withthe upper portions thereof being open wound coil and the lower portionsof close wound coil, which are attached to the saddle plates by means ofa rod 40 connecting rods [6, locked thereto.

Fig. 3 illustrates the method of securely fastening the molded leatheror imitation leather top in to the frame of the saddle which consists ofan inner plate 42, an outer plate 44 and the spring type framepreviously described. In assembling, the top It], previously molded tothe desired shape and filled with suitable cushioning material 46, suchas a felt pad, is placed over the intermediate steel plate 42. The edgesof the top If! are folded over and around the intermediate plate 42 andover this is placed the outer steel plate 44 having a series of pointedprojections 48, these projections having their points projectinginwardly and upwardly. When the outer toothed plate 44 is pressedtogether with the inner plate 42, the folded over edges of the top I!)being between both plates, the projections 48 grip the top [0 drawing itin and securely looking it between the two plates. The two plates arefastened together by use of a headed bolt 50 which passes through a holein the inner plate and a matching hole in the outer plate. The wholeseat is assembled together with the spring frame assembly and lockedtogether with the use of a nut 0n the headed bolt 50.

An alternative method of attaching the intermediate plate to the toothedplate is shown in Figs. 4 and 5. The intermediate plate is lanced out inseveral places to form tongues 52, attached at one end, while the outerplate has matching slots or holes to accept the tongues. In assemblywhen pressing the plates together the tongues are inserted through theslots and then bent backward over the outer plate securely fastening thetwo plates together.

Having thus described my invention and the advantages thereof, I do notwish to be limited to the details herein disclosed otherwise than as setforth in the claims, but what I claim is:

1. In a saddle, a saddle top, a longitudinal supporting spring frameconnected at its forward end to said saddle top, a spring depending fromthe saddle top at the rear end of said frame, a curved clip, the outsideradius of said clip conforming to the inside radius of the spring, saidclip having flanges to straddle at least two coils of said spring, aheaded bolt passing through a hole in said clip and an eye formed in theend of the longitudinal spring frame, and a nut on the bolt securing theclip, spring, and frame together.

2. A saddle comprising a seat, a spring frame therefor, said frame beingresiliently secured to the seat at the rear end thereof, and a springconnection between the front of the seat and said frame, said connectioncomprising a spring secured to the seat and terminating in an eye, the

front end of the frame being received in the eye and provided with aturned up extreme tip, the spring having a depression therein receivingthe tip, the latter limiting upward movement of the spring and the eyforming a pivot for downward movement of the spring, the latter beingnormally in uppermost position as limited by the spring frame tip.

3. The saddle recited in claim 2 in which said eye is elongated to awidth and length to accommodate said frame, allowing a certain freedomof movement between said parts whereby normal pivoting of the eye onsaid frame will fail to disengage the parts, said spring also having areverse curve of a form to restrain said frame in the 15 normal positionagainst longitudinal movement.

CHARLES A. PERSONS.

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